Comments on: Christopher Hitchens and Tony Jones 11 of 11 , 07 October 2009 10:00 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/ Oy Vey! Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:00:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: unserviam http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/comment-page-1/#comment-15757 unserviam Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:27:21 +0000 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/#comment-15757 It is apparent that people like to cohere around principles, and to that extent there is not much difference between the two groups. I would have thought however that Atheists, Freethinkers, and Rationalists would be more likely to understand the primal urge, and resist paying out hundreds or even thousands of dollars just to attend a gathering of the tribe at the con-job known as TAM. Randi is a Magician who makes money disappear from the wallets of ostensibly intelligent morons! It is apparent that people like to cohere around principles, and to that extent there is not much difference between the two groups. I would have thought however that Atheists, Freethinkers, and Rationalists would be more likely to understand the primal urge, and resist paying out hundreds or even thousands of dollars just to attend a gathering of the tribe at the con-job known as TAM. Randi is a Magician who makes money disappear from the wallets of ostensibly intelligent morons!

]]> By: rtarbinar http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/comment-page-1/#comment-15756 rtarbinar Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:50:29 +0000 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/#comment-15756 wow, does it really cost that much to go to TAM??? i don't even know that much about it. i do admit, the price would have to be pretty low for me to want to go, especially considering that excruciating "million dollar challenge" i saw with the dowser...thank goodness for youtube and fast-forward! :D but still, though i don't know much about him, i think randi's a cool guy! it seems like he's trying to prevent people from getting conned by psychics and various charlatans... wow, does it really cost that much to go to TAM??? i don’t even know that much about it.
i do admit, the price would have to be pretty low for me to want to go, especially considering that excruciating “million dollar challenge” i saw with the dowser…thank goodness for youtube and fast-forward! :D
but still, though i don’t know much about him, i think randi’s a cool guy! it seems like he’s trying to prevent people from getting conned by psychics and various charlatans…

]]> By: unserviam http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/comment-page-1/#comment-15755 unserviam Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:58:46 +0000 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/#comment-15755 It costs in the hundreds range to get in, and many people have to travel, and rent rooms in the area so it can be expensive. I know of several people who flew from New Zealand to the USA to attend one and then flew back. They like many skeptics seem to have more money than brains. Randi is a cool guy, but the people who attend TAM are already skeptics so who exactly among them is he saving?? Randi is playing the TAM going suckers for the cash! He's the smart one, & TAM goers are Dupes & Dopes! It costs in the hundreds range to get in, and many people have to travel, and rent rooms in the area so it can be expensive. I know of several people who flew from New Zealand to the USA to attend one and then flew back. They like many skeptics seem to have more money than brains. Randi is a cool guy, but the people who attend TAM are already skeptics so who exactly among them is he saving?? Randi is playing the TAM going suckers for the cash! He’s the smart one, & TAM goers are Dupes & Dopes!

]]> By: mikelipko http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/comment-page-1/#comment-15754 mikelipko Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:57:07 +0000 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/#comment-15754 what is believing in "anything" based on? I'll tell you....it's based upon what you have deemed in your mind as truth. well then what is truth?truth is what is. that's it. truth is merely and wholly just that, it just IS. look at a lie-what is it? it isnt what is! the word IS states that the thing exist verses does'nt exist! so make sure what you BELIEVE in actually IS or suffer the consequences of your own ignorance! what is believing in “anything” based on? I’ll tell you….it’s based upon what you have deemed in your mind as truth. well then what is truth?truth is what is. that’s it. truth is merely and wholly just that, it just IS. look at a lie-what is it? it isnt what is! the word IS states that the thing exist verses does’nt exist! so make sure what you BELIEVE in actually IS or suffer the consequences of your own ignorance!

]]> By: FrankSlade1983 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/comment-page-1/#comment-15753 FrankSlade1983 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:30:29 +0000 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/#comment-15753 lol yeah his attempt at the Australian accent was funny....but who was he referring to with the 'eyes too close together' remark and the accent? Ray Comfort? (the banana man)...or maybe Ken Ham? Both are Australian evangelical nut jobs...or maybe someone else? Any idea? lol yeah his attempt at the Australian accent was funny….but who was he referring to with the ‘eyes too close together’ remark and the accent? Ray Comfort? (the banana man)…or maybe Ken Ham? Both are Australian evangelical nut jobs…or maybe someone else? Any idea?

]]> By: dan7564 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/comment-page-1/#comment-15752 dan7564 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:31:38 +0000 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/#comment-15752 @FrankSlade1983 Ray comfort is from new zealand. He was referring to inbred american religious hicks. @FrankSlade1983 Ray comfort is from new zealand. He was referring to inbred american religious hicks.

]]> By: Elcristoph http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/comment-page-1/#comment-15751 Elcristoph Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:44:33 +0000 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/#comment-15751 @FrankSlade1983 I think he was trying an american accent @FrankSlade1983 I think he was trying an american accent

]]> By: mellech4 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/comment-page-1/#comment-15750 mellech4 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:28:02 +0000 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/#comment-15750 temple pond the monkeys reflection stares at me temple pond
the monkeys reflection
stares at me

]]> By: crazyboyxx http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/comment-page-1/#comment-15749 crazyboyxx Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:18:42 +0000 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/#comment-15749 his definition of atheism is incorrect. Atheist is not belief that there is no god, it is the lack of belief that there is a god. Hitchens should have corrected him because that is a classic strawman argument. his definition of atheism is incorrect. Atheist is not belief that there is no god, it is the lack of belief that there is a god. Hitchens should have corrected him because that is a classic strawman argument.

]]> By: sehnsucht333 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/comment-page-1/#comment-15748 sehnsucht333 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:22:21 +0000 http://www.crazyjews.net/christopher-hitchens-and-tony-jones-11-of-11-07-october-2009-1000/#comment-15748 Merriam-Webster's defines atheism as "a disbelief in the existence of deity" and "disbelief" as "mental rejection of something as untrue." I'm aware of the many specialized, philosophical distinctions between "strong" and "weak" atheism, and that most sophisticated atheists would agree more with your definition (I do, but I think it's synonymous with agnosticism) but both Hitchens and the host are using the word as it's understood by the vast majority of the population. Merriam-Webster’s defines atheism as “a disbelief in the existence of deity” and “disbelief” as “mental rejection of something as untrue.”

I’m aware of the many specialized, philosophical distinctions between “strong” and “weak” atheism, and that most sophisticated atheists would agree more with your definition (I do, but I think it’s synonymous with agnosticism) but both Hitchens and the host are using the word as it’s understood by the vast majority of the population.

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