Does God Exist? Dr Shermers Opening address a
On June 21, 2010, In Uncategorized, by admin
Does God Exist? Dr Shermers Opening address a
If you enjoyed this article, please consider sharing it!
Does God Exist? Dr Shermers Opening address a
Does God Exist? Dr Shermers Opening address a
Use the form below to search the site:
Still not finding what you're looking for? Drop a comment on a post or contact us so we can take care of it!
All entries, chronologically...
Powered by Yahoo! Answers
@diuryl
“we conclude that it’s intelligent based on the evidences of information, and information means intelligence.”
What??? Information is simply data, based on observable natural phenomena. There is no reason to suggest the first cause is intelligent in any way, putting aside the fact that intelligence and consciousness is dependent on biological processes whose raw materials are physical.
I can’t believe you people still cling to this dead argument.
@diuryl
“the causeless cause is/was entity because everything needs to begin with something that never changes, and just is.”
Could be mathematics, could be quantum fluctuation, could be some form of undiscovered energy… None of which is proven, all of which is more plausible than a conscious deity.
@andyrooney11 I couldn’t agree more. Shermer is the man. I’m still a Christian though because I didn’t join the whole liberal, hippie, “let’s all hate God” movement haha. It’s also just so much easier to define morality instead of going into an infinite regress which ultimately ends up in the random collision of atoms and dissolves into utter meaninglessness. I also don’t see the downside in believing just in case there is a heaven. I mean, it’s a win-win situation after you die in that case.
@MorganMarvinson
“The canned argument about being an atheist with regard to Zeus and other bygone deities is bogus”
It’s simply a figure of speech. It’s a device for pointing out that not believing in the Christian god is not different from not believing in any of the other ones.
@MorganMarvinson
“Why is it’s dark matter” any less a show stopper than God did it? ”
Because we can see the influence dark matter has on the rest of the universe, i.e. we have evidence it’s there. There is no such evidence for the existence of any gods.
@MorganMarvinson What does one call an individual who does not believe in Zeus? There is no proper name for such a person. I agree that “atheist” is less than ideal if the person also believes in the Judeo-Christian god. But what term is appropriate to convey that he/she does not believe in Zeus or any other asserted gods that are not the Judeo-Christian god?
Why is it’s “dark matter” any less a “show stopper” than God did it? It didn’t stop Newton from investigating God’s laws in nature. It doesn’t stop countless other curious believing scientists from exploring nature to understand how it was set up to work. “God did it” is just as much a “place holder” for the curious believer as some pseudo description.
Does every person have the curiosity of a scientist? No, and it’s a practical thing that everybody doesn’t pursue a life of science.
An a-theist is without a god. As long as a person has one, he is not an atheist. The canned argument about being an atheist with regard to Zeus and other bygone deities is bogus, and I suspect that Drs. Shermer and Dawkins know it but still like to use the line.
“It can’t possibly be explained by science” is beside the point, the thing about it is that it has not been explained by science and therefore until it can explain it they don’t even have a legitimate argument.
christians believe that god became a primate…. how much credibility do these people really have?
This man is simply brilliant…he is right up there with Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, and James Randi. Sometimes I just help but smile when I listen to them speak because I just feel richer for having had the experience of being educated. I was raised Christian and I spent quite a lot of time making fun of Atheists…never thought that I would become an intellectual and start thinking for myself. Bravo to all the intellectuals that contribute to the progress of mankind everywhere.
google Doe’s Account. mindblowing.
Sadly you are not atheist but dumbass and you can be totally embarrassed just all by yourself little silly pet.
If I were an atheist I would be totally embarrased by this jerk
Shermer needs to watch “Return of The Nephilim” by Patrick Heron, which explains exactly how and where the god’s like Zeus, Apollo, etc. of the ancient world came from and were in fact super human.
@lord69z.
you never even asked any questions, so what exactly am i dodging?
you asked for proof, which i told you i never claimed to have. you asked me where my faith is, well my answer to that is, it’s right here! then you asked a question and then answered it yourself. so what am i dodging?
you should learn when to put the right arguments where necessary, instead just saying whatever just for the sake of saying something.
as for the evidence i’ll send a link. MAKE USE OF IT!
@diuryl
“during the course of the debate he was given tons of reasons.
it’s not like Lennox remained silent through out. clearly you were only listening to what shermer had to say, and when Lennox came on, you shut off.
how do you know i? have no evidence?
in all my experience of talking to skeptics, i now understand that anyone who says there’s no evidence for my position is either…”
I get those ideas from your own replies.
@diuryl “not that there isn’t good scientific evidence”
Give me some evidence.
I like your question dodging – cognitive dissonance is amazing no?
@lord69z.
you already made a few mistakes.
1- i never, NOT ONCE! claimed that i could PROVE GOD.
2- i never said there was PROOF for GOD.
3- you’re making assumptions about me trying to make religion a science.
honestly i don’t know where you’re getting all these ideas and false accusations.
@diuryl Provide it here buddy.
I wanna see how you will be the 1st person in the world to prove god.
Also, where is your FAITH baby?
Now you’re trying to make religion a science? No thanks.
Dont play stupid. I’m ready to question everything from religion to the theories of natural phenomena.
There are no tabus that are shielded from scepticism.
I just said I’m ready to accept even fairies and bigfoots. Anyone should be if the evidence is strong.
You are high on something.
a true skeptic is….”One who is yet undecided as to what is true; one who is looking or inquiring for what is true; an inquirer after facts or reasons.”
a pseudo skeptic is…..”The original definition of skeptic was a person who questions ALL beliefs, facts, and points-of-view. A healthy perspective in my opinion. Today’s common definition of skeptic is someone who questions any belief that strays outside of the status quo, yet leaving the status quo itself completely…….>”
well if you say he didn’t then you probably slept though the thing.
you see? “fairies and bigfoot”. your mind was already closed before the debate, and before this discussion even began. talking to people like you is a complete waste of time.
well then you can keep making assumptions, and you can keep your mind closed, but i guarantee you, that with that mentality, you’ll never find the answers you’re looking for.
what you basically have, is not skepticism, but PSEUDO-SKEPTICISM….>
“so just because? person 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, and 9 didn’t have the evidence, then you ASSUME person 10 won’t either?”
We are actually at number 8821 about now, and yes, I think I’m justified to conclude this considering the great thinkers of history.
It is not foolish and you know it.
“..is already wrong”
Incorrect. I simply dont accept their assumptions. I need evidence, they dont provide me.