Tzafrir Ronen at the Jerusalem Conference speaking on the true identity of the land disputed between Jews and Arabs.
On June 21, 2010, In Uncategorized, by admin
Tzafrir Ronen at the Jerusalem Conference speaking on the true identity of the land disputed between Jews and Arabs.













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People ignore it:almost 80% of Palestine was “stolen”. Abdullah, Arab from Hejaz, was installed Emir of Transjordan by the British. The world plunged into historical amnesia. Churchill opted for a Hashemite solution, decided to buy off prince Abdullah:offered him a position in Transjordan.76% of the land was given to an Arab dynasty not Palestinian
The new-created Transjordan drifted into existence as a separate entity from Palestine; it’s often forgotten Jordan was Palestine!
In 1900, the Land was divided among the vilayets (provinces) of Beirut and Damascus, and the mutesarriflik (districts) of Jerusalem. At the start of the nineteenth century, Jerusalem belonged to the vilayet of Damascus.
Yet in 1900 the Arabs in the country did not see the Land as separate or distinct, nor did they have a consciousness of being a Palestinian people. The Muslim Arabs were loyal to the Ottoman Empire.
Arabs and Muslims one hundred years ago did not commonly use it. Nor did they see the country to which the name applied as a separate country. For them, it was an indistinct part of a larger geographic entity, Bilad ash-Sham (usually translated as Syria or Greater Syria). Nor did it have a territorial division of any name that corresponded in its boundaries even roughly to those of the political entity Palestine named and set up by the international community at San Remo in 1920.
The name Palestine doesn’t originate with Arabs or Palestinians.
It derives from Roman Empire terminology and had fallen into abeyance for centuries until early modern Christian West, moved by a resurgent interest in science and classical culture, revived its usage.
and at least my MTDNA test proved to me im 1,000,000,000,000,000 % ASSYRIAN and have always originated from bet nahrain (mesopotamia) and nowhere else!!!
no whats ignorance is to sit there and say this is ‘my land’ when scientifically and genetically 90% of your nation BELONGS/ORIGINATES IN EASTERN EUROPE (ASHKENAZ) and nowhere near the holy land and YOUR OWN SCIENTIST’S PROVED THIS! the real true israelites were ARAB JEWS that were exiled by there own arab brothers (muslims) and then white european devils lied and deceived there way to stealing a nations land away from them for themselves. SORRY I DONT FALL FOR YOUR LIES AND BULLSHIT YOU SPREAD
@nurieln jews and me and israel are humans are good and bad.
hamas fatach islamic jihad saudies they have no intrest in peace
neither peace for there own had oslo agreements had chance yes left gaza got 8 years of rockets i am sory it does t work
@koioo2 You are right. Both sides are playing a foolish game. The question is if anyone really wants peace. In 2003 the Israeli government pulled out completely from Gaza. The number of people killed after that was astronomic. Some people in Israel say that arabs see concessions as weakness. I would like to believe that it is not in Hamas interest to have peace. Destroying Hamas power is the only key to peace. Egypt understands that. Let us hope that the rest of the arab world also understands
@nurieln peace can be of both partys want the same.i want to believe if arab world
come to israel say to israel we recognize maby like saddat.kadima party
maby yitzak reach there hand out.other party must do the same
in 30 years had opetunity to make something.no one appear to get it after suicide bomps from rocketts it does t work.abumzen hamas islamic jihad allll the same
your right sadat want peace.
@koioo2
I will answer! Peace can be achieved when the palestinian people will be so lucky as to merit a courageous leader like president Anwar El Sadet of Egypt (who was assassinated for this act) and like King hussein of Jordan to whom the true welfare of their people is detrimental. Fortunately, a good part of palestinians are influenced by preident Mahmud Abbas. Unfortunately, his efforts to unite the hopefully near-coming Palestinina state is thwarted by Hamas fundamentalists.
@Yitzhak010 sire if you can walk drive to gaza than to the west bank send me a postcard than drive to hezbolah send me a postcard i am willing to believe
there a so call palstinen state.since if you don t make in to gaza with out slicing your head off.there is one real state that state of israel
and i want to give nothing away from israel to bunge of terrorist
@Yitzhak010 now you sound as a arab from now i won t respond i wil not waist energy no more
@koioo2 boml allll dammmmmmmmmm arab terrorist
and let david defeat goliath
@Yitzhak010 mi first note was there is t a palstinen state as a state as israel
if you have pair of gangster running
your respond fuck you(i don t curse nor am i try to)
we both agree hamas hezbolah regime not people need be destroyed as the flotila
than you don t read you pretend keep repeating your self
i ask how do you make peace no anser
@Yitzhak010 fine do me a favour.what wiul it take for you to live in israel ?
and i notice you repeate your self i am nazzie i am ass i am dictastor i am this i am that.
@Yitzhak010 1 its easy to its the nazzies i am a nzzie i am a dictator
other is after 10 years of suicide bomps after iran say i want a nuclair bomp
and givin back gaza you have 8 years of rocketts.i think you lost relaity
your hand is raching out you pretend hamas hezbolah and al qada do the same
your a lost soul
@koioo2 this is dictatorship and Nazism ….shame .. i hate fake secular people who claim to be tolerant but yet disrespect anyone who isnt like them ….
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So because Manhattan is still called Manhattan, does that mean it belongs to the Native American tribe of that name?
@koioo2 … fine I support you but this is not the teachings of my people Iam a Jew and I shall not kill and murder innocent people because they refuse to respect me … IAM TOLERANT … r u?
@Yitzhak010 i have family in israel you mention arabs that want to live under us
i mention those arabs.now let go with you.there a palstine land
can you enter palstine can you shop can you buy car parts ?
let me tell you one thing straight.i might be a fool.
i wil not chnage who i am.start proud westener.proud jew proud american
i wil not surender to sharia or annything else
i don t bring peace.how do you bring peace ?
@koioo2 … Iam an Israeli u fool! G-d! u know what wtever .. u people will never bring peace to Israel with ure stupidity NONIE DARWISH AND WAFA SULTAN ROCK! but theyre logic ..
@Yitzhak010
i know 2 arabs.mister zihader jasser served for U.S troops kamal nawish
proud arab american.nonie darwish.
if there one arab in israel want to live according to how we live
knock on the door
don t tell me to cut israel in to piecses how nice sweet ahamas regime of iran is
than your at wrong adress how suadies